tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37421406.post8629448044430784233..comments2023-09-30T08:20:57.971-04:00Comments on Bradley Wright's Blog: The modern apologyBrad Wrighthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07800309833079635465noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37421406.post-69526438004682736132008-04-01T11:59:00.000-04:002008-04-01T11:59:00.000-04:00I definitely appreciate your version of the apolog...I definitely appreciate your version of the apology more than the original. It's more honest and authentic.Janethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14217782471845451567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37421406.post-14459512089054437592008-03-14T16:58:00.000-04:002008-03-14T16:58:00.000-04:00Duh...There, but for the grace of God, go I.Duh...<BR/><BR/>There, but for the grace of God, go I.Doing Better Than I Deservehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10066265992775679929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37421406.post-33030725510039099782008-03-14T09:41:00.000-04:002008-03-14T09:41:00.000-04:00Fair point Brad, though in my experience, in today...Fair point Brad, though in my experience, in today's church the problem is more likely a "oh-is-me-resigned-to-sin" theology or a defeated approach to the Christian life or a excuse not to be held accountable for sins of omission, as much as sins of commission...<BR/><BR/>At least that is what I see among younger Christians more than a moral self-righteousness or naive approach to sin and our own capacity for it.<BR/><BR/>Interesting stuff...Ben D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07514101493778935878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37421406.post-73982729098339841002008-03-14T07:37:00.000-04:002008-03-14T07:37:00.000-04:00Thank you JR... seems relevant.Hey Ben, yeah, you'...Thank you JR... seems relevant.<BR/><BR/>Hey Ben, yeah, you're right, this post overstates the matter. I agree that good comes from God's image, both in-born and situationally-given. <BR/><BR/>Still, the larger point, I think, is that Christians might buy into the idea that we're so good it's a surprise when we do bad, and our own moral standard should be praised.Brad Wrighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07800309833079635465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37421406.post-90154307015141395612008-03-13T22:02:00.000-04:002008-03-13T22:02:00.000-04:00Good stuff Brad, though I would caution against th...Good stuff Brad, though I would caution against the hyper-Calvinist theological claim that we are incapable of doing good.<BR/><BR/>It creates the bizarre (and unhealthy, let alone untrue) idea that everything we do that is good is because of God and everything we do bad is because of us. But the scriptures are actually pretty clear that we are capable of good (ethcially, morally, aescetically), creativity, innovation, etc. In fact, this is part of what it means to be created in the image of God (imago dei).<BR/><BR/>While certainly that image has been marred by original sin (and our own sin), it has not been fully destroyed.<BR/><BR/>The parable of the Talents and Matthew 25, etc, all imply that Jesus expects that we can, in fact, create good--and that we are responsible to do that! And as redeemed people, we certainly have that responsibility! (already and not yet, of course).<BR/><BR/>Even Paul's argument in Romans supports this idea. Grace is that we are still alive at all ("for the wages of sin is death...) and given that God has graced us with life, how to we respond? How do we worship him?<BR/><BR/>I think it is a dangerous path when Christians begin to see themselves of only capable of failure, sin, and the negative.<BR/><BR/>That said, I certainly appreciate your call for grace in light of Spizter, et al.<BR/><BR/>BDBen D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07514101493778935878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37421406.post-21869627121896857902008-03-13T14:16:00.000-04:002008-03-13T14:16:00.000-04:00It reminds me of Romans 22 1 Therefore you have no...It reminds me of Romans 2<BR/><BR/>2 1 Therefore you have no excuse, O man, every one of you who judges. For in passing judgment on another you condemn yourself, because you, the judge, practice the very same things. 2 We know that the judgment of God rightly falls on those who do such things. 3 Do you suppose, O man—you who judge those who do such things and yet do them yourself—that you will escape the judgment of God? 4 Or do you presume on the riches of his kindness and forbearance and patience, not knowing that God's kindness is meant to lead you to repentance? 5 But because of your hard and impenitent heart you are storing up wrath for yourself on the day of wrath when God's righteous judgment will be revealed. 6 He will render to each one according to his works: 7 to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life; 8 but for those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, there will be wrath and fury. 9 There will be tribulation and distress for every human being who does evil, the Jew first and also the Greek, 10 but glory and honor and peace for everyone who does good, the Jew first and also the Greek. 11 For God shows no partiality. 12 For all who have sinned without the law will also perish without the law, and all who have sinned under the law will be judged by the law. 13 For it is not the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the law who will be justified. 14 For when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law. 15 They show that the work of the law is written on their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness, and their conflicting thoughts accuse or even excuse them 16 on that day when, according to my gospel, God judges the secrets of men by Christ Jesus.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00772168718321735432noreply@blogger.com