tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37421406.post113040123806490454..comments2023-09-30T08:20:57.971-04:00Comments on Bradley Wright's Blog: An article on deconversion from ChristianityBrad Wrighthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07800309833079635465noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37421406.post-54430446611030631742011-05-25T11:40:38.795-04:002011-05-25T11:40:38.795-04:00Interesting thoughts, KT. I didn't know you h...Interesting thoughts, KT. I didn't know you had a background in theoretical mathematics... wow.Brad Wrighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07800309833079635465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37421406.post-82131018448200902512011-05-25T11:39:06.618-04:002011-05-25T11:39:06.618-04:00Dave, that was my big ah-ah... that people in the ...Dave, that was my big ah-ah... that people in the church may do more harm in terms of responding to doubt than in causing it in the first place.Brad Wrighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07800309833079635465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37421406.post-2639543485148839142011-05-25T11:38:31.868-04:002011-05-25T11:38:31.868-04:00I hate to say it, but I don't think that I hav...I hate to say it, but I don't think that I have any particular insight into what to do. This type of research is best suited for diagnosing problems, more so than identifying solutions. As such, I would defer to people like KT Cat and others who have put thought into the matter.Brad Wrighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07800309833079635465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37421406.post-38139123960221957162011-05-24T09:56:37.456-04:002011-05-24T09:56:37.456-04:00Jayden, one more thing. Not only do I apply logic...Jayden, one more thing. Not only do I apply logic to my faith, I firmly contend that <a href="http://ktcatspost.blogspot.com/2011/02/nietzsche-and-hawking.html" rel="nofollow">modern scientific atheists do not</a>. They simply do not believe what they claim. That's why Brad's article, sections 29 and 30 were so sad to me. Logic, or at least consistency of behavior, is on the side of Christianity, not atheism.K T Cathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10259428595745509790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37421406.post-69075805553584843302011-05-24T09:52:01.037-04:002011-05-24T09:52:01.037-04:00Jayde, actually, I do apply logic to my religious ...Jayde, actually, I do apply logic to my religious beliefs. My education was as a theoretical mathematician. Applying logic is what we do. I just finished reading G. K. Chesterton's <i>Everlasting Man</i>. In it, he suggests that Christianity is unique because it marries logical philosophy with spiritual mysticism. I'm not sure about the uniqueness, but I'm sure about the marriage. I believe because to not believe would be illogical.<br /><br />Example: In modern terms, if you thought Christianity to be a hoax, you'd be suggesting that 12 auto mechanics from Puerto Rico could spread a religion that would become global and after 2000 years would have over a billion adherents. Not only that, these 12 auto mechanics would never get rich, never become powerful and would almost all die a horrible death for preaching their faith, something they would not renounce even under torture. That's simply not a logical position.K T Cathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10259428595745509790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37421406.post-5876027609266299362011-05-23T19:02:22.060-04:002011-05-23T19:02:22.060-04:00KT, you may embrace logic and science (more than m...KT, you may embrace logic and science (more than most fundamentalists at any rate) but you don't apply it to your religious beliefs.Jaydennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37421406.post-49833156547766873712011-05-22T11:54:00.391-04:002011-05-22T11:54:00.391-04:00I read much of the paper. 29&30 bothered me t...I read much of the paper. 29&30 bothered me the most. There's just no need for it at all. I'm not sure about the other denominations, but in the Catholic Church, <a href="http://ktcatspost.blogspot.com/2011/02/something-i-did-not-know.html" rel="nofollow">we embrace logic and science</a>. Sadder still is the fact that logic points in the direction of Christianity, not away from it as Brad's first book attests - social patholigies are reduced through Christianity.K T Cathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10259428595745509790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37421406.post-38518779871672777572011-05-20T10:00:01.623-04:002011-05-20T10:00:01.623-04:00I would love to hear your thoughts on what christi...I would love to hear your thoughts on what christians can do to actually help those in the process of deconversion, and what can be done to reverse the progression.Like a Childhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15991265512226039592noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37421406.post-68295783323415418982011-05-18T20:42:09.621-04:002011-05-18T20:42:09.621-04:00Really interesting. I was shocked by how poignant ...Really interesting. I was shocked by how poignant the narratives seemed despite the academic approach and limited quoting. <br /><br />My big take-away was the predominance of "push" reasons away from Christianity, and how the community did damage to those with doubt or questions.Davehttp://churchaccomplishednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37421406.post-86444035828766691032011-05-16T13:59:21.345-04:002011-05-16T13:59:21.345-04:00Super...Super...Brad Wrighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07800309833079635465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37421406.post-23501096349524837502011-05-16T10:27:33.569-04:002011-05-16T10:27:33.569-04:00I think this is the ticket to your next appearance...I think this is the ticket to your next appearance on Research on Religion. Had meant to get back to you, but been really busy.Tony Gillhttp://www.researchonreligion.orgnoreply@blogger.com